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Raid Healing — Recounterpoint

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Ulduar WWS

http://wowwebstats.com/v6gm4xgrron63

Now … how the heck much did I shield!!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!??!

Actor
Total ↓ % Hits Hits% Avg Max Dots Avg Max Crit Crit% Avg Max Ovh%
Flash Heal v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48071 4 554 523 31 % 565 70 % 4 944 9 771


239 30 % 7 367 14 521 56 %
Penance v6gm4xgrron63?ab=52985 3 170 150 21 % 539 71 % 3 652 7 420


216 29 % 5 562 8 155 40 %
Prayer of Healing v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48072 2 846 823 19 % 332 66 % 4 802 6 044


174 34 % 7 198 8 414 50 %
Glyph of Power Word: Shield v6gm4xgrron63?ab=56160 1 599 524 11 % 823 80 % 1 403 1 994


210 20 % 2 118 2 990 42 %
Binding Heal v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48120 1 495 790 10 % 211 77 % 4 905 7 188


63 23 % 7 313 8 333 47 %
Prayer of Mending v6gm4xgrron63?ab=33110 664 313 5 % 120 73 % 3 577 4 949


44 27 % 5 340 6 063 22 %
Forethought Talisman v6gm4xgrron63?ab=60530 166 912 1 %



166 1 005 1 379



6 %
Divine Hymn v6gm4xgrron63?ab=64844 123 571 1 % 15 71 % 5 088 5 740


6 29 % 7 873 8 982
Greater Heal v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48063 105 439 1 % 7 78 % 10 687 14 268


2 22 % 15 312 15 359 87 %
Desperate Prayer v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48173 29 670 0 % 4 100 % 7 417 7 640






33 %
Renew v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48068 11 510 0 %



9 1 278 1 321




Master Healthstone v6gm4xgrron63?ab=47877 11 324 0 % 2 100 % 5 662 5 662






26 %
Holy Nova v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48076 4 712 0 % 1 50 % 1 835 1 835


1 50 % 2 877 2 877 100 %
Shadowfiend : Improved Leader of the Pack v6gm4xgrron63?ab=34299 2 020 0 %



3 673 679



33 %
Devouring Plague v6gm4xgrron63?ab=48300 570 0 % 6 100 % 95 100






100 %

Research lead me first to http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=47146.0

And the answer seems to be … no, there’s not really a way.

/sigh/

However WWS still looks like a nicer way for me to share my healing other than recount…

Amen!

http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/05/17/forum-post-of-the-day-be-disciplined-about-healing-meters/

http://ducttape.etherjammer.com/2009/05/step-away-from-the-meters/

WWS to the rescue … maybe?

Recount finally pushed my button one too many times, and I broke down and did my research on http://wowwebstats.com/

As far as I can see the steps are

  1. Enter Ulduar
  2. Type /combatlog
  3. Dispense healing awesomeness
  4. Type /combatlog
  5. Leave Ulduar
  6. Upload to WWS through their java client
  7. Evaluate data all kinds of cool ways
  8. Profit

Ulduar Final Numbers

Not sure I accomplished anywhere near everything I hoped to, but eh, it’s an ongoing process.

I did manage to fire off a Divine Hymn per boss fight once I realized I was completely failing to do that.  Used the macro that tsarc recommended, with my berserker addition.

Overall Numbers:

  • Penance
    3178 hit, 4556 crit
    22% - 374 count
    20% overheal - 271 overheal count
  • Binding Heal
    4030 hit, 5415 crit
    21% - 292 count
    19% overheal - 220 overheal count -
  • Flash Heal
    3673 hit, 4842 crit
    17% - 257 count
    31% overheal - 330 overheal count -
  • PoH
    3671 hit, 5049 crit
    14% - 206 Count
    20% overheal - 224 overheal count -
  • Glyph of PW Sheild
    1299 hit, 1923 crit
    13% - 535 count
    8.3% overheal - 309 overheal count -
  • PoM
    3378 hit, 4717 crit
    9.5% - 156 count
    1.4% overheal - 32 overheal count
  • Divine Hymn
    5352 hit, 6334 crit
    2.2% - 24 count
    0.2% overheal - 5 overheal count

Oh, and the overall portions of healing (only 5 healers tonight, we got up to Freya and ran out of time)

  • Holy Priest - 24.8%
  • Resto Druid - 18.3%
  • Holy Pally - 13.7%
  • Holy Pally - 12.8%
  • Disc Priest - 10.9%

Now, that only accounts for 80.5% of the healing.  So my ’share’ would be 16%.

If you separate out the single target vs ae healers (wich, of course, I will do because, let’s face it, it’s going to make me look better), I did pretty awesome.  The single target healers did 37.4% of the healing between the three of us, so my share would be 12.5%.

And, of course, if you separate out the Disc priests, I’ve got the highest healing done out of all of them.

Well, actually I should take my own advice and look for ways to improve, rather than finding ways to make recount say I’m a good healer. ;)

Recount and PoH

‘count’ means ‘targets healed for more than 0′

Which makes it pretty much useless info to me.

XT-002

XT-002 some good testing

  • PoH - 29%, 41 ‘count’ - 36% overhealing
  • Binding - 20%, 27 count - 14.7% overhealing
  • Penance - 17%, 29 count - 17.5% overhealing
  • PWShield Glyph - 14.5%, 54 count - 7.6 overhealing
  • Flash - 10%, 16 count - 22% overhealing
  • PoM - 7.5%, 12 count (so much for watching that CD) - 2.3% overhealing

And what’d I forget to cast?  That’s right, Devine Hymn.

/sigh

Testing in Ulduar

I was hoping to get some HPS theorycrafting in tonight but instead I’m doing some 5-mans to try to get the ‘crusader’ title.  Exhalted with Argent Crusade and I’m all done.

Either way, I’ll be watching my mana at the end of each fight/attempt in Ulduar tonight to see if mana is really the limiting factor like I’m treating it.  If not, HPS is going to become quite important to me.

Items I hope to test out tonight in Ulduar:

  1. Divine Hymn … Use it once per fight.  Even if it’s at a stupid time, at least it’ll help get me into the habit.  Macroed with Inner Focus.
  2. Speaking of cooldowns, make better use of PoM, PI, Berserking, Inner Focus.
  3. Penance, on the other hand, I want to really watch my overhealing on.
  4. PoH needs some serious testing, possibly glyphed, hopefully hasted with borrowed time.

PoH Theorycrafting

Comments from Tsark have me taking a look at PoH and HPS numbers.  Since the servers are down I can’t run my faceplant testing, I’ll focus on PoH a bit over lunch.  HPS review once the servers come back up, and then I’ll be planning some testing to do tonight in Ulduar.

Factors that effect PoH:

Talents and Gear that all Priests are likely to have (or can get):

Talents and Gear that Disc Priests enjoy exclusively:

And, sadly some Talents we miss out on that are in Holy:

  • Holy Reach for bigger Radius
  • Spiritual Guidance for more SP
  • Spiritual Healing for +10% healing
  • Serendipity for up to 36% spell haste
  • Test of Faith for potentially +12% healing
  • Divine Providince for +10% healing

So … yeah we have a few factors that will effect PoH.

Net effect (if you count HoT’s and Divine Aegis as ‘healing’), assuming you’re using it Glyphed:

Disc Priests:

  • +18% Crit Rate (+43% with Inner Focus)
  • +24% Healing (+54% on a Crit)
  • +6% Haste (+31% after a Shield)

Holy Priests:

  • +15% Crit Rate (+40% with Inner Focus)
  • +40% Healing (+52% if below 50%)
  • +0% to +36% haste after 0-3 Flash Heals

So, PoH is much less ‘Holy Oriented’ than I’d thought.  Disc finds it easier to haste-up it’s long cast time, helps it crit a bit more, and then gains more when it does crit.

I had assumed that the Holy Priest in my guild would have a significantly higher base crit than I … nope, his 14.74% to my 14.57%

I’ll definitely be doing some PoH testing.  (how many targets I’ll be able to regularly hit will be a BIG factor).

I’ll also be using a modified version of tsark’s macro:
#showtooltip Prayer of Healing
/cast Inner Fire
/cast Berserking
/cast Prayer of Healing

I have a similar one for Penance that I use when the tank takes a big dip in health suddenly.

Raid Healing - AE Theorycrafting of rolling PWShield vs just casting PoH

Using WoWWiki to snag some good data on PoH and PWShield.

Doing some Faceplant Testing here, in addition to use of actual math (Faceplant testing is where I mount my flying carpet, fly up a few stories, and then plummet to the pavement below.  Then I heal myself.  Repeat as needed.)

PoH Items of note:

  • Way to go WoWWiki, this is a good combo with Inner Focus.  I need to use Inner Focus more anyway.
  • And, of course, with the longer casting time this spell gains good benefit from Borrowed Time after a PWShield cast.
  • Groups with pets could see bigger ‘returns’ as it heals group members + pets.
  • To further complicate things, there’s a Glyph, though I don’t use said glyph, and can’t imagine using it as Disc.
  • Each target will be healed 2091-2209 +42.85% of your +Healing.
  • As my +Heal is 2780, this would be an average of 3341.23.  Faceplant testing puts it at 4300.  Will have to revisit that later.  Using Faceplant Testing Value for now.
  • Cost is 1854 Mana

PWShield

  • The math, with all my talents, to figure out sheild value is obnoxious.  Faceplant testing puts mine at a 6500 shield + 1300 pt heal for 7800 total.
  • Cost is 666 Mana with my talent set.  Evil.

So, let’s assume that both spells are used to their fullest.  PoH will heal all 5 targets, and PWShield will prevent the full value of it’s shield before expiration.

PWShield is 0.085 Mana per Health.

PoH is 0.086 Mana per Health.

So, they’re pretty even.

If I think PWShield is going to absorb, I’ll go with that.

Now … from other testing, I’ve got Penance at 0.06 M/H, and Flash at 0.12 M/H…

PoH goes to 0.11 H/M at 4 targets, 0.14 at 3 targets, 0.22 at 2 targets, and 0.43 at 1 target.

So, assuming no more damage is incoming right away (because I’d just shield away)…

  • Assuming I can hit a full group of 5, PoH looks like a great heal (Assuming someone doesn’t heal any group members to full during it’s 2+ sec cast)
  • Assuming I can hit 4 people in the group … eh, Flash Heal is slightly more efficient.  PoH does get it done almost twice as Fast though…
  • Assuming I can hit 3 people in the group … I may as well just switch to Flash Heal at this point.  IMO anyway.
  • And Assuming I can hit 2 people in the group … forget about it, it’s Flash Heal time.

Good Night, and Thanks for all the Fish.

16 Fish feasts (mine, apparently I was the only one with fish tonight) mean about 4 attempts on Thorim, 12 on Mimiron.

Got Mimiron to his Voltron phase, but raid exploded about 10 seconds in.  Violently.

Will review the numbers further when I get a chance, but final overall numbers (once we got our 7th healer in) put me at 9% of the “effective healing”.  If we assume (and this is a dangerous assumption, but entirely possible on Thorim/Mimiron) that my shields are always preventing their full amount of damage, I’d estimate my contribution to be closer to 13%.  As I’m shooting for 14% (with 7 healers), that’s not horrible.

I am not factoring Aegis of Shielding in these preliminary numbers, as they’ll serve to balance out the shields that didn’t get used (um, maybe?), but really because it’s midnight and I don’t want to do more math.  Further, Recount is showing me -Effective- healing on the PWShield Glyphs, meaning overheals aren’t shown, so it’s even HARDER to guess what my shields are preventing.

I’ll be looking into WWS to see if it’s a better alternative to tracking this data, because I’m really having a hard time accounting for Recount’s shortcomings on prevention.

Bah, anyway…

Overall spell distribution of ‘effective healing’ according to Recount was

  • 27% Penance in 402 casts
  • 23% Flash in 271 casts
  • 17% Binding in 211 casts
  • 14% PoH in 170 Casts
  • 8.6% PWShield Glyph in 321 casts
  • 8.4% PoM in 145 casts

A few things I’m noticing right away.  PoM casts seem low, I’m not trilled with that number.  If I can be as mindful of PoM as I am of Penance I should be able to put that number closer to 250.

PoH was much higher than I’d expected.  I need to run the numbers to see if that’s at all an efficient (health/mana or heals/sec) thing to be doing.

I’m extremely happy to see so much Penance, I mean that spell is just SUPER.